A Sabbath rest for the people
This morning, on sunday, I was struggling and fighting with the idea of rest. I want to crack open my philosophy books and my history text book and study for my test on tuesday. The desire to work and study was very strong and discouraged I began to read my bible. The discipline of rest and the commandment of the sabbath is something I want to follow, but how can I when so many pressing assignments and chapters are squeezing me?
Promises come with obediance was my reminder, but my heart still failed me. "I can't do this! I need to read, I have so much to do and today is the only day left!" That is when the Valley of Vision hit me with joyful ecstacy on a prayer called "The Lord's day" below is the portion that hit me
"This is the day,
the heavenly ordinance or rest,
the open door of worship
the record of Jesus resurrection..."
These are the first four line of the prayer, but then I realized that today is a day of rest, and rest from our work but a day of celebration! A resting in the wonderful joyful completed work of JESUS resurrection, not to just be celebrated at easter! Now Hebrews 4 makes sense...we rest in him, we strive to enter the rest he provides!
What does this look like? How about "proclaiming the excellencies of him who called you"? (1 Peter 2:9 )Rejoicing in the resurrected Christ that this work is the foundation of all our faith so that we are not to be pitied above all people, for believing in a dead savior? (1 Cor 15). That by his resurrection we are raised with Christ, and that he has the power to raise even those who are dead in their sins..
So today is not a day to lament of not working, but rather to devot today for proclaiming his excellencies and praying for those who are still dead in sins. Praying that by his power he can raise them from the dead also.
To end here is a few lines from a song we often sing at church:
He rose from the dead, conquering fear, our prince of peace drawing us near...Jesus our hope, living for all the world to see, Lord we believe!
Sunday, November 7, 2010
Saturday, September 4, 2010
Daily Reading
This passage struck me last night as I was at home doing my budget and praying for the Eteam. I believe God put it on my heart, as I was working numbers on a spreadsheet. I put the entire chapter on play from ESV online audio, but this morning this passage struck me with an "inexpressable and glorious joy"
Romans 10:1- 4
Brothers, my heart's desire and prayer to God is that they may be saved . I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God but not according to knowledge. For being ignorant of the rightouesness that comes from God, and seeking to establish their own, they did not submit to God's rigteousness. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.
The end of righteousness. I began to pray for some of my unbelieving friends, that they would not seek to establish a righteousness according to their own devising, even as some proclaim to know God and could have a passion for him, but they do not know Christ. Oh Lord I pray for myself that I would not seek to do what the law recquires but rather seek what Christ recquires of me, a righteousness found only in him, and as Philippians says "a righteousness from God that depends on faith". Yes Lord may I depend solely on you oh God!
Romans 10:1- 4
Brothers, my heart's desire and prayer to God is that they may be saved . I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God but not according to knowledge. For being ignorant of the rightouesness that comes from God, and seeking to establish their own, they did not submit to God's rigteousness. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.
The end of righteousness. I began to pray for some of my unbelieving friends, that they would not seek to establish a righteousness according to their own devising, even as some proclaim to know God and could have a passion for him, but they do not know Christ. Oh Lord I pray for myself that I would not seek to do what the law recquires but rather seek what Christ recquires of me, a righteousness found only in him, and as Philippians says "a righteousness from God that depends on faith". Yes Lord may I depend solely on you oh God!
Wednesday, April 28, 2010
Jude 1: 17-19
Jude 1: 17-19
'But you must remember, beloved, the predictions of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ. They said ot you, "In the last time there will be scoffers, following their own ungodly passions." It is these who cause divisions, wordly people, devoid of the Spirit.'
"Scoffers-" to mean "playing like children"; "to mock"
Similiar texts
Acts 20:29 "I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock.."
1 Tim 4:1-2 "Now the spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, thugh the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared..."
2 Tim 3:1- 5 "But understand this, that in the last days, there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unapeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness but denying its power. Avoid such people."
2 Tim 4:3-4 " For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to hte truth and wander off into myths."
2 Peter 2: 1-3 " But false prophets also arose among the people ust as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, eve denying the Master who brought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idel, and their destruction is not asleep."
2 Peter 3:3 " Know this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires.."
Jude 1:16 "These are grumblers, malcontents, following their won sinful desires; they are loud-mouthed boasters showing favoritism to gain advantage."
Ps. 14: 1-2 "To the choirmaster. Of David. The fool says in his heart ' There is no God' they are corrupt, they do abominable deeds. There is no one who does good. The Lord looks down from heaven on the children of man to seek if there are any who understand, who seek after God."
Jude 1:19 KJV- "These be they who seperate themselves, sensual, having not the spirit"
Jude 1: 19 ESV- " it is these who cause divisions, worldy people, devoid of the spirit"
KJV- seems to refered to an individual isolation where as the ESV talks about divisions, probably within the people of God. Isolation can lead to a division of sorts, and division can lead to isolation. It's probably safe to stay away from both.
Similar verses:
Prov. 18: 1 "Whoever isolates himself seeks his own desires, he breaks out against all sound judgment"
Ezekiel 14:7-8 "For any one of the house of Israel, of the the strangers who sourjourn in Israel, who seperates himself from me, talking his idols into his heart and putting the stumbling block of his iniquity before his face and yet comes to a prophet to consult me through him, I, the Lord, will answer him myself. And I will set my face against that ma; I will make him a sign, and a byword, and cut him off from the midst of my people and you shall know that I am the Lord."
Idols and Isolation are a BIG deal to GOD! It seems that Isolation is the medium in which Idolatry thrives; sensuality, and worldliness are bred their as well.
That is why scripture says:
Heb 10:25 "not neglecting to meet together as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another and all the more as you see the Day drawing near."
In reference to sensuality-
1 Cor 2: 14 "The natural person does not acept the things of the spirit of God, for they are folly to him and he is not able to understand them becuse they are spiritually discerned."
James 3: 15 "This is not the wisdom that comes down from above, but is earthy unspirtual and demonic."
John 3: 5-6 "Jesus ansered him, "Truly, Truly, I say to you, unless oe is born of water and the spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of flesh is flesh, and that which is born of spirit is spirit"
Rom. 8:9 " You however are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Andyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ, does not belong to him."
This is not a wishy-washy faith, on the fence, or nomanlistic faith. Scripture points out that you are either of God or you're not. And there are evidences to prove which side you are on.
'But you must remember, beloved, the predictions of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ. They said ot you, "In the last time there will be scoffers, following their own ungodly passions." It is these who cause divisions, wordly people, devoid of the Spirit.'
"Scoffers-" to mean "playing like children"; "to mock"
Similiar texts
Acts 20:29 "I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock.."
1 Tim 4:1-2 "Now the spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, thugh the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared..."
2 Tim 3:1- 5 "But understand this, that in the last days, there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unapeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness but denying its power. Avoid such people."
2 Tim 4:3-4 " For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to hte truth and wander off into myths."
2 Peter 2: 1-3 " But false prophets also arose among the people ust as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, eve denying the Master who brought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idel, and their destruction is not asleep."
2 Peter 3:3 " Know this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires.."
Jude 1:16 "These are grumblers, malcontents, following their won sinful desires; they are loud-mouthed boasters showing favoritism to gain advantage."
Ps. 14: 1-2 "To the choirmaster. Of David. The fool says in his heart ' There is no God' they are corrupt, they do abominable deeds. There is no one who does good. The Lord looks down from heaven on the children of man to seek if there are any who understand, who seek after God."
Jude 1:19 KJV- "These be they who seperate themselves, sensual, having not the spirit"
Jude 1: 19 ESV- " it is these who cause divisions, worldy people, devoid of the spirit"
KJV- seems to refered to an individual isolation where as the ESV talks about divisions, probably within the people of God. Isolation can lead to a division of sorts, and division can lead to isolation. It's probably safe to stay away from both.
Similar verses:
Prov. 18: 1 "Whoever isolates himself seeks his own desires, he breaks out against all sound judgment"
Ezekiel 14:7-8 "For any one of the house of Israel, of the the strangers who sourjourn in Israel, who seperates himself from me, talking his idols into his heart and putting the stumbling block of his iniquity before his face and yet comes to a prophet to consult me through him, I, the Lord, will answer him myself. And I will set my face against that ma; I will make him a sign, and a byword, and cut him off from the midst of my people and you shall know that I am the Lord."
Idols and Isolation are a BIG deal to GOD! It seems that Isolation is the medium in which Idolatry thrives; sensuality, and worldliness are bred their as well.
That is why scripture says:
Heb 10:25 "not neglecting to meet together as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another and all the more as you see the Day drawing near."
In reference to sensuality-
1 Cor 2: 14 "The natural person does not acept the things of the spirit of God, for they are folly to him and he is not able to understand them becuse they are spiritually discerned."
James 3: 15 "This is not the wisdom that comes down from above, but is earthy unspirtual and demonic."
John 3: 5-6 "Jesus ansered him, "Truly, Truly, I say to you, unless oe is born of water and the spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of flesh is flesh, and that which is born of spirit is spirit"
Rom. 8:9 " You however are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Andyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ, does not belong to him."
This is not a wishy-washy faith, on the fence, or nomanlistic faith. Scripture points out that you are either of God or you're not. And there are evidences to prove which side you are on.
Monday, April 19, 2010
The Soul Winner
My own commentary on some of the quotes from Charles Spurgeons Book called "The Soul Winner" His quotes are italized, my commentary is in regular font. My commentary is written with the Friday Night Evangelism ministry in mind.
One thing more, the soul- winner must be a master of the art of prayer. You cannot bring souls to God if you go not to God yourself. you must get your battle-axe,and your weapons of war, from the armoury of sacred communication with Christ. If you are much alone with Jesus, you will catch His spirit, you will be fired witht he flame that burned in His breast, and consumed His life. you will weep with the tears that fell upon Jerusalem when He saw it perishing; and if you cannot speak so eloguently as He did, yet shall there be about what you say somewhat of the same power which in Him thrilled the hearts and awoked the consciences of men. pp. 194
It seems obvious to say evangelism cannot be done without prayer, without the going to God. In fact, evangelism is God's mission Yet often we fail to use this weapon of warfare. We MUST all be soaking ourselves in being alone with Christ, in preparation before/during and after fridays, and beyond. How much more ready am I, more intentional, more completly awed by God's graces when I have first tasted them in fellowship with him during the day or days before. Let us be encouraging one another more and more to press deeper into God's heart. To see him in his glory and let him be magnified in our eyes. Then the souls and plight of the lost become to use our dying passion and the needs of our brothers and sisters in keeping their souls becomes our intense desire.
Lastly brethren, I think that those sermons which have been prayed over are the most likely to convert people. I mean those discourses that have had much really prayer offered over them, both in the preparation and the delivery, for there is much so-called prayer that is only playing at praying. pp 83
In our group, and in individual evangelism there can be an emphasis on praying for the people who will be receiving the message of the Gospel. Without neglecting to do that, we should also be praying for the delivery of the Gospel to be spoken in a way most effective to the hearers.
But further, if we follow Christ, He will make us fishers of men by all our experience.
I am sure that the man who is really consecrated to bless others will be helped in this by all that he feels, especially by his afflictions. I often feel very grateful to God that I have undergone fearful depression of spirits. I know the borders of despair and the horrible brink of that gulf of darkness in to which my feet have almost gone. But hundreds of times I have been able to give a helpful grip to brethren and sisters who have gone into that same condition, which grip I could never have given if I had not know their deep despondency. pp228
How thankful I am for recent spiritual turmoil, and for trials! These have bended my knee before the cross. The Lord has brought people recently into my life that are now walking through the very thing I did, and how what joy it has been to comfort them, because I have walked through the despondency and terrors of the soul. If my trials are the avenue to bring many to Christ, than how happy I will be if my life be filled with them.
Did you never win a soul for Jesus? …We must hear the cries of those whom God has given to be born unto himself.by our means. We must hear them or else cry out in anguish, “Give me converts, or I die’..if you love the Lord, get a passion for souls. Do you not see them? They are going down to hell by thousands; as often as the hand upon the dial completes its circuit hell devours multitudes some of them ignorant of Christ and others willfully rejecting Him. The world lies in darkness; this great city still pines for the light; your won friends and kinsfolk are unsaved, and thy may be dead ere this week is over. Oh if you have any humanity, let alone Christianity, if you have found the remedy, tell the diseased about it! If you have found life, proclaim it to the dead; if you have found liberty, publish it to the captives; if you have found Christ, tell of Him to others. Pp 176
What can be added here? If we do not have an intense burning aching love for the lost, to see them come to Christ, we have nothing.
It is a horrible thing for a man to be so doctrinal that he can speak coolly of the doom of the wicked, so that if he does not actually praise God for it, it costs him no anguish of heart to think of the ruin of millions of his race. This is horrible! …Whatever I believe, or do not believe, the command to love my neighbor as myself still retains its claim upon me and God forbid that any views or opinions should so contract my soul and harden my heat as to make me forge this law of love! The love of God is first, but this by no means lessens the obligation of love to man; in fact, the first command includes the second. We are seek our neighbors conversion because we love him and we are to speak to him in loving terms God’s loving gospel, because our heart desires his eternal good. Pp 14
I am ashamed to say I have spoken coolly of the doom of the wicked, as coolly as I might say " I am having spaghetti tonight." Often I have read and studied scripture but have not allowed my affections to be kindled in the manner of love. This indeed has been a great hinderance in the sucess of the gospel. God can use this, even this, but how much more if love and affection abounded. The Gospel MUST change this in my own life, or else my proclaiming be in vain.
Whatever other price others may set upon ignorance, we are promoters of knowledge, and the more it can be spread the better shall we be pleased. but if the church of God thinks that it is sent into the world merely to train the mental faculties, it has made a very serious mistake, for the object of Christianity is not to educate men for their secular callings, or even to train them in their politer arts, or the more elegant professions, or to enable them to enjoy the beauties of nature or the charms of poetry.
Jesus Christ came not into the world for any of these things, but he came to seek and to save that which was lost; and on the same errand has He sent His Church, and she is a traitor to the Master who sent her if she is beguiled by the beauties of taste and are to forget that to preach Christ and Him crucified is the only object for which she exists among the sons of men.
..their [missionaries] is to save.The same is true of the Sunday-School teacher, and of all other workers among children; if they have merely taught children to read, to repeat hymns, and so forth, they have not yet touched their true vocation. We must have children saved. At this nail we must drive, and the hammer must come down upon this head always- the we might by all means save some, for we have done nothing unless some are saved.- pp. 199,200
After reading this I am wanted to ask; "Who is our audience, so that we might know how to drive home the hammer and nail into their hearts?"
The fisherman is a daring man...So the true minister of Christ, who fishes for souls, will never mind a little risk. pp. 234
What is risk for me? What is risk for our group? Have we gotten too comfortable in what we do, to comfortable in what we ask of God?
Oh that we were altogether rid of unbelief, that we believed great things of God, and with heart and soul so preached that men were likely to be converted by such discourses, proclaiming truth likely to convert them, and declaring them in a manner that would be likely to be blessed to the conversion of our hearers! Of course, all the while we must be trusting to the Holy Spirit to make the work effectual, for we are but the instruments in His hands. Pp 68
You my depend upon it that souls are not saved by a minister who doubts; and the preaching of your doubts and your questions can never possibly decide a soul for Christ. You must have great faith in the word of God if you are to be winners of souls to those who hear it.
You must also believe in the power of that message to save people. Pp41
It must be our intense desire that the Holy Spirit should visit our hearers, and create them anew.. a new and heavenly mind must be created by omnipotence or the man must abide in death. Pp 18
Because I do not see it, I doubt often, instaneous conversion. I expect people to come to God later after I have left, to think about it, to go home and meditate upon the news, if they come upon conversion at all. As this might be the way God saves in some, he does not always. He may use the word I have spoken to be the sickle to get the fruit, rather than the farmer who plants the seeds. I do not come to expect God to actually save the person right then, at that moment, because I feel as if it would not actually be genuine. Though we want to see geninue conversions, this thought has so hindered me, I have not expected ANY conversions, or at least any at that moment of dialogue. I do not ask of God to give them what I have been given, as oft as I should, why?
Now, in the last place, the man whom Christ makes a fisher of men is successful...For instance, here is a brother who says that he is faithful. Of course, I must believe him, yet I never heard of a sinner being saved under him. Indeed, I should think that the saftest place for a person to be if he did not want to be saved would be under this gentlemen's ministry, because he does not preach anything that is liekly to arouse, impress or convince anybody. This brother is 'faithful' so he says.
Well, if any person in the world said to you, 'I am a fisherman, but I ahve never caught anything', you would wonder how he could be called a fisherman. A farmer who never grew any wheat, or any other corp-is he a farmer? When Jesus Christ says, 'Follow Me, and I will make you fishers of men', He means that you shall really catch me, that you really shall save some. For he that never did get any fish is not a fishermen. He that never saved a sinner after years of work is not a minister of Christ. If the result of his life-work is nil, he made a mistake when he undertook it.
What does it mean to be a faithful soul winner, if none have ever been saved in your proclaiming? Even if you proclaim the gospel often?
Go thou with the fire of God in thy hand, and fling it among the stubble, and the stubble will burn. Be thou sure of that. Go thou and scatter the good seed; it may not all faill in fruitful places but some of it will. Be thou sure of that. Do but shine and some eye or other will be lightened thereby. Thou must, thou shalt succeed. But remember this the Lord's word, "Follow Me, and I will make you fishers of me" Keep close to Jesus,a nd do as Jesus did, in his spirit, and He will make you fishers of men. pp.235
Amen.
One thing more, the soul- winner must be a master of the art of prayer. You cannot bring souls to God if you go not to God yourself. you must get your battle-axe,and your weapons of war, from the armoury of sacred communication with Christ. If you are much alone with Jesus, you will catch His spirit, you will be fired witht he flame that burned in His breast, and consumed His life. you will weep with the tears that fell upon Jerusalem when He saw it perishing; and if you cannot speak so eloguently as He did, yet shall there be about what you say somewhat of the same power which in Him thrilled the hearts and awoked the consciences of men. pp. 194
It seems obvious to say evangelism cannot be done without prayer, without the going to God. In fact, evangelism is God's mission Yet often we fail to use this weapon of warfare. We MUST all be soaking ourselves in being alone with Christ, in preparation before/during and after fridays, and beyond. How much more ready am I, more intentional, more completly awed by God's graces when I have first tasted them in fellowship with him during the day or days before. Let us be encouraging one another more and more to press deeper into God's heart. To see him in his glory and let him be magnified in our eyes. Then the souls and plight of the lost become to use our dying passion and the needs of our brothers and sisters in keeping their souls becomes our intense desire.
Lastly brethren, I think that those sermons which have been prayed over are the most likely to convert people. I mean those discourses that have had much really prayer offered over them, both in the preparation and the delivery, for there is much so-called prayer that is only playing at praying. pp 83
In our group, and in individual evangelism there can be an emphasis on praying for the people who will be receiving the message of the Gospel. Without neglecting to do that, we should also be praying for the delivery of the Gospel to be spoken in a way most effective to the hearers.
But further, if we follow Christ, He will make us fishers of men by all our experience.
I am sure that the man who is really consecrated to bless others will be helped in this by all that he feels, especially by his afflictions. I often feel very grateful to God that I have undergone fearful depression of spirits. I know the borders of despair and the horrible brink of that gulf of darkness in to which my feet have almost gone. But hundreds of times I have been able to give a helpful grip to brethren and sisters who have gone into that same condition, which grip I could never have given if I had not know their deep despondency. pp228
How thankful I am for recent spiritual turmoil, and for trials! These have bended my knee before the cross. The Lord has brought people recently into my life that are now walking through the very thing I did, and how what joy it has been to comfort them, because I have walked through the despondency and terrors of the soul. If my trials are the avenue to bring many to Christ, than how happy I will be if my life be filled with them.
Did you never win a soul for Jesus? …We must hear the cries of those whom God has given to be born unto himself.by our means. We must hear them or else cry out in anguish, “Give me converts, or I die’..if you love the Lord, get a passion for souls. Do you not see them? They are going down to hell by thousands; as often as the hand upon the dial completes its circuit hell devours multitudes some of them ignorant of Christ and others willfully rejecting Him. The world lies in darkness; this great city still pines for the light; your won friends and kinsfolk are unsaved, and thy may be dead ere this week is over. Oh if you have any humanity, let alone Christianity, if you have found the remedy, tell the diseased about it! If you have found life, proclaim it to the dead; if you have found liberty, publish it to the captives; if you have found Christ, tell of Him to others. Pp 176
What can be added here? If we do not have an intense burning aching love for the lost, to see them come to Christ, we have nothing.
It is a horrible thing for a man to be so doctrinal that he can speak coolly of the doom of the wicked, so that if he does not actually praise God for it, it costs him no anguish of heart to think of the ruin of millions of his race. This is horrible! …Whatever I believe, or do not believe, the command to love my neighbor as myself still retains its claim upon me and God forbid that any views or opinions should so contract my soul and harden my heat as to make me forge this law of love! The love of God is first, but this by no means lessens the obligation of love to man; in fact, the first command includes the second. We are seek our neighbors conversion because we love him and we are to speak to him in loving terms God’s loving gospel, because our heart desires his eternal good. Pp 14
I am ashamed to say I have spoken coolly of the doom of the wicked, as coolly as I might say " I am having spaghetti tonight." Often I have read and studied scripture but have not allowed my affections to be kindled in the manner of love. This indeed has been a great hinderance in the sucess of the gospel. God can use this, even this, but how much more if love and affection abounded. The Gospel MUST change this in my own life, or else my proclaiming be in vain.
Whatever other price others may set upon ignorance, we are promoters of knowledge, and the more it can be spread the better shall we be pleased. but if the church of God thinks that it is sent into the world merely to train the mental faculties, it has made a very serious mistake, for the object of Christianity is not to educate men for their secular callings, or even to train them in their politer arts, or the more elegant professions, or to enable them to enjoy the beauties of nature or the charms of poetry.
Jesus Christ came not into the world for any of these things, but he came to seek and to save that which was lost; and on the same errand has He sent His Church, and she is a traitor to the Master who sent her if she is beguiled by the beauties of taste and are to forget that to preach Christ and Him crucified is the only object for which she exists among the sons of men.
..their [missionaries] is to save.The same is true of the Sunday-School teacher, and of all other workers among children; if they have merely taught children to read, to repeat hymns, and so forth, they have not yet touched their true vocation. We must have children saved. At this nail we must drive, and the hammer must come down upon this head always- the we might by all means save some, for we have done nothing unless some are saved.- pp. 199,200
After reading this I am wanted to ask; "Who is our audience, so that we might know how to drive home the hammer and nail into their hearts?"
The fisherman is a daring man...So the true minister of Christ, who fishes for souls, will never mind a little risk. pp. 234
What is risk for me? What is risk for our group? Have we gotten too comfortable in what we do, to comfortable in what we ask of God?
Oh that we were altogether rid of unbelief, that we believed great things of God, and with heart and soul so preached that men were likely to be converted by such discourses, proclaiming truth likely to convert them, and declaring them in a manner that would be likely to be blessed to the conversion of our hearers! Of course, all the while we must be trusting to the Holy Spirit to make the work effectual, for we are but the instruments in His hands. Pp 68
You my depend upon it that souls are not saved by a minister who doubts; and the preaching of your doubts and your questions can never possibly decide a soul for Christ. You must have great faith in the word of God if you are to be winners of souls to those who hear it.
You must also believe in the power of that message to save people. Pp41
It must be our intense desire that the Holy Spirit should visit our hearers, and create them anew.. a new and heavenly mind must be created by omnipotence or the man must abide in death. Pp 18
Because I do not see it, I doubt often, instaneous conversion. I expect people to come to God later after I have left, to think about it, to go home and meditate upon the news, if they come upon conversion at all. As this might be the way God saves in some, he does not always. He may use the word I have spoken to be the sickle to get the fruit, rather than the farmer who plants the seeds. I do not come to expect God to actually save the person right then, at that moment, because I feel as if it would not actually be genuine. Though we want to see geninue conversions, this thought has so hindered me, I have not expected ANY conversions, or at least any at that moment of dialogue. I do not ask of God to give them what I have been given, as oft as I should, why?
Now, in the last place, the man whom Christ makes a fisher of men is successful...For instance, here is a brother who says that he is faithful. Of course, I must believe him, yet I never heard of a sinner being saved under him. Indeed, I should think that the saftest place for a person to be if he did not want to be saved would be under this gentlemen's ministry, because he does not preach anything that is liekly to arouse, impress or convince anybody. This brother is 'faithful' so he says.
Well, if any person in the world said to you, 'I am a fisherman, but I ahve never caught anything', you would wonder how he could be called a fisherman. A farmer who never grew any wheat, or any other corp-is he a farmer? When Jesus Christ says, 'Follow Me, and I will make you fishers of men', He means that you shall really catch me, that you really shall save some. For he that never did get any fish is not a fishermen. He that never saved a sinner after years of work is not a minister of Christ. If the result of his life-work is nil, he made a mistake when he undertook it.
What does it mean to be a faithful soul winner, if none have ever been saved in your proclaiming? Even if you proclaim the gospel often?
Go thou with the fire of God in thy hand, and fling it among the stubble, and the stubble will burn. Be thou sure of that. Go thou and scatter the good seed; it may not all faill in fruitful places but some of it will. Be thou sure of that. Do but shine and some eye or other will be lightened thereby. Thou must, thou shalt succeed. But remember this the Lord's word, "Follow Me, and I will make you fishers of me" Keep close to Jesus,a nd do as Jesus did, in his spirit, and He will make you fishers of men. pp.235
Amen.
For the Love of God Pt. 4
Pt. 4
Chp. 4 God's love and God's Wrath
A. The love of God and the Wrath of God
1) The wrath of God; scripture uses "high intensity" language
Isa. 13:4, 6:9
Ezek. 5:11-17
Revelation 14
"Wrath like love, includes emotion as a necessary component. Here again, if impassibility is defined in terms of the complete absence of all "passions'', not only will you fly in the face of the biblical evidence, but you tumble into fresh errors that touch the very holiness of God. There reason is that itself, wrath, unlike love, is not one of the intrinsic perfections of God. Rather, it is a function of God's holiness against sin. Where there is no sin, there is no wrath- but there will always be love in God. Where God in his holiness confronts his image bearers in there rebellion, there must be wrath, or God is not the jealous God he claims to be, and his holiness is impugned. The price of diluting God's wrath is diminishing God's holiness."
2) How can the wrath and love of God relate?
God hates the sinner and the sin- Rom. 1:18, John 3:36
Wrath not blind rage- entirely reasonable and willed response "not generated by the loveliness of the loved"
3) A. Misconception- OT More wrath, NT a "softer" God approaches; not true look at the cross
Wrath- OT temporal categories
Wrath -NT eternal category
B) Misconception- God's wrath mollified by Jesus
Jesus and father one in "project of redemption"
Rom. 3:21-36
B. The Love of God and the Intent on the Atonement
"Limited" is limiting and misleading
Rather say "general" and "definite" over "Unlimited" and "Limited"
"surely is is best not to introduce disjunctions where God himself has not introduced them. If one holds that the Atonement is sufficient for all and effective for the elect, then both sets of texts and concerns [L/UL] and concerns are accomated. As far as I can se, a text such as 1 John 2:2 states something about the potential breadth of the atonement"
"I argue, then, that both Armnians and Calvinists should rightly affirm that Christ died for all, in the sense that Christ's death was sufficient for all and that the Scripture portrays God as inviting, commanding, and desiring the salvation of all our of love[ God's salvinic stance to the world] . Further all Christians ought also to confess that, in a slightly different sense, Christ Jesus, in the intent of God, died effectively for the elect alone, in line with the way the Bible speaks of God's special selecting love [his love for the elect]"
C. The Love of God for the World
John 3:16
1 John 2:15-17
D. The Love of God and the People of God
1) Like a parent to his child (eg. Heb 12:4-11; cf Prov. 4:20)
Jude 21
Ex. 20:6
2) "Love of God is not to be merely analyzed, understood, and adopted into holistic categories of intergrated theological thought, It is to be received, to be absorbed, to be felt." Eph 3:14-21
3" Never, never, underestimate the power of the love of God to break down and transform the most amazingly hard individuals"
Les Miserables
"God's love so transforms us that we mediate it to others who are thereby transformed We love because he first loved us; we forgive because we can stand forgiven"
1) intra-Trinitarian love- ensures plan of redemption
2) Providential love- protects, feeds, clothes and forbears
3) Yearning inviting love, commanding love- displayed on the cross
4) Elective love-enables us to see his sheer glory and power of Christ's vicarious death
5) God continues to love us- with immutable love (romans 8) but with love of a father (jude 21)
Remain in his love John 15:9ff
"All this has transformed us, so that we in turn perceive the sheer rightness of the first commandment- to love God with heart and soul and mind and strength. As that is the first and greatest commandment, so the first and greatest sin is not to love God with heart and soul and mind and strength. For this there is no remeddy, save what God himself has provided- in love"
Chp. 4 God's love and God's Wrath
A. The love of God and the Wrath of God
1) The wrath of God; scripture uses "high intensity" language
Isa. 13:4, 6:9
Ezek. 5:11-17
Revelation 14
"Wrath like love, includes emotion as a necessary component. Here again, if impassibility is defined in terms of the complete absence of all "passions'', not only will you fly in the face of the biblical evidence, but you tumble into fresh errors that touch the very holiness of God. There reason is that itself, wrath, unlike love, is not one of the intrinsic perfections of God. Rather, it is a function of God's holiness against sin. Where there is no sin, there is no wrath- but there will always be love in God. Where God in his holiness confronts his image bearers in there rebellion, there must be wrath, or God is not the jealous God he claims to be, and his holiness is impugned. The price of diluting God's wrath is diminishing God's holiness."
2) How can the wrath and love of God relate?
God hates the sinner and the sin- Rom. 1:18, John 3:36
Wrath not blind rage- entirely reasonable and willed response "not generated by the loveliness of the loved"
3) A. Misconception- OT More wrath, NT a "softer" God approaches; not true look at the cross
Wrath- OT temporal categories
Wrath -NT eternal category
B) Misconception- God's wrath mollified by Jesus
Jesus and father one in "project of redemption"
Rom. 3:21-36
B. The Love of God and the Intent on the Atonement
"Limited" is limiting and misleading
Rather say "general" and "definite" over "Unlimited" and "Limited"
"surely is is best not to introduce disjunctions where God himself has not introduced them. If one holds that the Atonement is sufficient for all and effective for the elect, then both sets of texts and concerns [L/UL] and concerns are accomated. As far as I can se, a text such as 1 John 2:2 states something about the potential breadth of the atonement"
"I argue, then, that both Armnians and Calvinists should rightly affirm that Christ died for all, in the sense that Christ's death was sufficient for all and that the Scripture portrays God as inviting, commanding, and desiring the salvation of all our of love[ God's salvinic stance to the world] . Further all Christians ought also to confess that, in a slightly different sense, Christ Jesus, in the intent of God, died effectively for the elect alone, in line with the way the Bible speaks of God's special selecting love [his love for the elect]"
C. The Love of God for the World
John 3:16
1 John 2:15-17
D. The Love of God and the People of God
1) Like a parent to his child (eg. Heb 12:4-11; cf Prov. 4:20)
Jude 21
Ex. 20:6
2) "Love of God is not to be merely analyzed, understood, and adopted into holistic categories of intergrated theological thought, It is to be received, to be absorbed, to be felt." Eph 3:14-21
3" Never, never, underestimate the power of the love of God to break down and transform the most amazingly hard individuals"
Les Miserables
"God's love so transforms us that we mediate it to others who are thereby transformed We love because he first loved us; we forgive because we can stand forgiven"
1) intra-Trinitarian love- ensures plan of redemption
2) Providential love- protects, feeds, clothes and forbears
3) Yearning inviting love, commanding love- displayed on the cross
4) Elective love-enables us to see his sheer glory and power of Christ's vicarious death
5) God continues to love us- with immutable love (romans 8) but with love of a father (jude 21)
Remain in his love John 15:9ff
"All this has transformed us, so that we in turn perceive the sheer rightness of the first commandment- to love God with heart and soul and mind and strength. As that is the first and greatest commandment, so the first and greatest sin is not to love God with heart and soul and mind and strength. For this there is no remeddy, save what God himself has provided- in love"
For the Love of God pt. 3
Notes and personal commentary on "The Difficult Doctrine of the Love of God"(D.A.Carson)
Started 4/8/10- Completed 4/15/10
All "" are direct quotes. Notes are in summary/paraphrased form unless other wise noted. Some titles are directly quoted
Chp. 3 God's love and God's Sovereignty
The Affective Element in God's love
Hosea 11
The emotional intenstity
God is a jeolous God
Abounds in love and faithfulness- shown to Moses Ex. 34:6
God grieves Ps. 78:40; Eph. 32:10
Pities (Ps. 103:13)
Everlasting love (Isa. 54:8, Ps. 103:17)
1 John 4:7-11
'Dear Friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another' (4:11)
Model and incentive
The impassiblity of God?
The Soverignty and Transcedence of God
1) God is utterly sovereign, transcendent, and omnipotent
Jer. 32:17
2 Cor. 6:8; Rev 1:8
Matt 19:26
Prov. 16:23
Heb. 1:3
Eph. 1:11
Prov. 21:1
Romans 9;21
Enjoys all Knowledge
Matt. 11:20-24
1 Sam. 23:11-113
Job 37:16
Ps. 90:4
2 Peter 3:8
Isa 57:15
2) His Sovereignty extends over election
Rom. 9:11
Acts 13:48
Eph 1:4-5 cf. Rev. 13:7-8, 17:8
2 Thess. 2:13
Election over angels -1 Tim 5:21
Chosen race - 1 Peter 2:9
Electing love- immutable John 6:37- 40
3) Christians are not fatalists- "compatablism"
Gen. 50:19-20
(speaking about this story) " in one and the same event, God was operating and his intentions were good, and the brothers were operating and their intentions were evil"
Acts 4:23- 29
Pilate, herod, gentiles, Jews in evil act; on other hand God's appointing events
Not to stress either too much
4) God's immutability; unchangeableness
Ps. 02:27
Mal 3:6
Isa 46:8-11
Ps 33:11, cf. Matt 13:35; 25:3; Eph 1:4, 11:1; 1 Peter 1:20
"God's immutability is enormously imporatant, It engenders stability and elicts worship"
5) The sketch of God coming under attack - "open" view of God
Some scriptures to defend each postion
"Sooner or later on retreats into the recognition that, so far as we are concerned, there are some mysteries in the very Being of God The deepest of these, I think are tied to the fact that Go as he has disclosed himself in Scpriture is simultaneously soverign/transcendent and personal"
Ways to unpack that quote-
No personal level illustration of soverigenty and transcendence
"personal" in our being- attached to finite things; God is not "finite"
C. A Rightly Constrained Impassibility
Love in line with his will
Sets his affections on elect no "falling in love"
emotional but not sentimentalized love
"God loves, whomever the object, because God is love...God exercises this love in conjunction with all his other perfections, but his love is no less love for that..his love emanates from his own character; it is not dependent on the loveliness of the loved, external to himself"
"because we have been transformed by the Gospel, over love is to be self-orginating,not elicted by the loveliness of the the loved
1John 4:19
Rom. 5:8
John 4:10
Started 4/8/10- Completed 4/15/10
All "" are direct quotes. Notes are in summary/paraphrased form unless other wise noted. Some titles are directly quoted
Chp. 3 God's love and God's Sovereignty
The Affective Element in God's love
Hosea 11
The emotional intenstity
God is a jeolous God
Abounds in love and faithfulness- shown to Moses Ex. 34:6
God grieves Ps. 78:40; Eph. 32:10
Pities (Ps. 103:13)
Everlasting love (Isa. 54:8, Ps. 103:17)
1 John 4:7-11
'Dear Friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another' (4:11)
Model and incentive
The impassiblity of God?
The Soverignty and Transcedence of God
1) God is utterly sovereign, transcendent, and omnipotent
Jer. 32:17
2 Cor. 6:8; Rev 1:8
Matt 19:26
Prov. 16:23
Heb. 1:3
Eph. 1:11
Prov. 21:1
Romans 9;21
Enjoys all Knowledge
Matt. 11:20-24
1 Sam. 23:11-113
Job 37:16
Ps. 90:4
2 Peter 3:8
Isa 57:15
2) His Sovereignty extends over election
Rom. 9:11
Acts 13:48
Eph 1:4-5 cf. Rev. 13:7-8, 17:8
2 Thess. 2:13
Election over angels -1 Tim 5:21
Chosen race - 1 Peter 2:9
Electing love- immutable John 6:37- 40
3) Christians are not fatalists- "compatablism"
Gen. 50:19-20
(speaking about this story) " in one and the same event, God was operating and his intentions were good, and the brothers were operating and their intentions were evil"
Acts 4:23- 29
Pilate, herod, gentiles, Jews in evil act; on other hand God's appointing events
Not to stress either too much
4) God's immutability; unchangeableness
Ps. 02:27
Mal 3:6
Isa 46:8-11
Ps 33:11, cf. Matt 13:35; 25:3; Eph 1:4, 11:1; 1 Peter 1:20
"God's immutability is enormously imporatant, It engenders stability and elicts worship"
5) The sketch of God coming under attack - "open" view of God
Some scriptures to defend each postion
"Sooner or later on retreats into the recognition that, so far as we are concerned, there are some mysteries in the very Being of God The deepest of these, I think are tied to the fact that Go as he has disclosed himself in Scpriture is simultaneously soverign/transcendent and personal"
Ways to unpack that quote-
No personal level illustration of soverigenty and transcendence
"personal" in our being- attached to finite things; God is not "finite"
C. A Rightly Constrained Impassibility
Love in line with his will
Sets his affections on elect no "falling in love"
emotional but not sentimentalized love
"God loves, whomever the object, because God is love...God exercises this love in conjunction with all his other perfections, but his love is no less love for that..his love emanates from his own character; it is not dependent on the loveliness of the loved, external to himself"
"because we have been transformed by the Gospel, over love is to be self-orginating,not elicted by the loveliness of the the loved
1John 4:19
Rom. 5:8
John 4:10
Thursday, April 15, 2010
For the Love of God-Part 2
Notes and personal commentary on "The Difficult Doctrine of the Love of God"(D.A.Carson)
Started 4/8/10- Completed 4/15/10
All "" are direct quotes. Notes are in summary/paraphrased form unless other wise noted. Some titles are directly quoted
Ch. 2 God is love
John 4:8,16
"God is love" means what?
How NOT to proceed
1.The Word for love cannot be tied to anyone word group- "careful diachronic work has been done on Greek words for love"
Word group disintictions and arguments (see book for further understanding)
How to proceed
Text in context
John 5:17- "Sonship' is very often a functional category in the Bible. Because the overwhelming majority of sons ended up vocationally doing what their fathers did, 'like father, like son' was the cultural assumption' -Jesus did what his father did, illustrates Matt 5:9
2. Did God keep the Sabbath? 1st Centuray Jewish Arguement
Yes- God is sovereign and does not work (ie. lift anything higher than shoulders..he is bigger than universe)
No- If he rested creation would unwind and go swirling out of order
How can Jesus be God's son?
He did everything God wanted him to do
1) Did not set himself against God, or enourage ditheism but rather monotheism; Jesus subordinate and entirely dependent on the father
John 5:19-20
"Like Father like Son"
"He can do only what he sees the Father doing (subordination) because he does whatever he Father does (coextensive action). This makes his sonship unique"
2) John 5:20- Why does the Son do everything the Father does?
The Father Loves the Son and shows him all he does "craftsman shop model"
"Jesus is so uniquely and unqualifedly the Son of God that he Father shows him all he does, out of sheer love for him, and the Son, however dependent on his Father, does everything the Father does"
3.A) " The Son by his obediance to the Father doing only what God gives him to say, yet doing such things in funiction of his ablitiy to do whatever the Father does, acts in such a way as to reveal God perfectly"
b) " It is because the Father loves the Son that this pattern of divin self-disclosure pertains"
John 5:23
Romans 8:32
4) The Son's love for the Father
John 8:29, 14:31
5)Father loves the Son and shows him all that he does
John 5:20a
John 5:20b-21
"In the past God occasionally used human agents i the resuctation of someone (e.g., Elijah). Jesus is different. Because the Father has 'shown' him this, Jesus raised the dead as he please, just as the Father pleases"
Some Concluding Synthetic Reflections
"Mark well the distinction between the love of the Father for the Son and the love of the Son for the Father. The Father commands, sends, tells, commissions- and demonstrates his love fo the Son by 'showing' him everything- and demonstrates his love for the Son by 'showing' him everything, such that the Son does whatever the Father does. The Son obeys, says only what the Father gives him to say, does only what the Father gives him to do, comes into the world as the Sent One- and demonstrates hi love for the Faher prcisely by such obedience"
John 15
The model of how Jesus loves the Father should be our model in how we should love and obey Jesus
John 14:15
John 15:14-15
John 17
Distinction between slaves and friends
"not once is Jesus or God ever described in the Bible as our friend. Abraham is God's friend; the reverse is never stated."
He has shown us what the Father does and says, revealed this to us, so therefore we are his friends
" The difference of friendship is that the full information has been conveyed. It is an informational difference...of revelation not of obediance"
Started 4/8/10- Completed 4/15/10
All "" are direct quotes. Notes are in summary/paraphrased form unless other wise noted. Some titles are directly quoted
Ch. 2 God is love
John 4:8,16
"God is love" means what?
How NOT to proceed
1.The Word for love cannot be tied to anyone word group- "careful diachronic work has been done on Greek words for love"
Word group disintictions and arguments (see book for further understanding)
How to proceed
Text in context
John 5:17- "Sonship' is very often a functional category in the Bible. Because the overwhelming majority of sons ended up vocationally doing what their fathers did, 'like father, like son' was the cultural assumption' -Jesus did what his father did, illustrates Matt 5:9
2. Did God keep the Sabbath? 1st Centuray Jewish Arguement
Yes- God is sovereign and does not work (ie. lift anything higher than shoulders..he is bigger than universe)
No- If he rested creation would unwind and go swirling out of order
How can Jesus be God's son?
He did everything God wanted him to do
1) Did not set himself against God, or enourage ditheism but rather monotheism; Jesus subordinate and entirely dependent on the father
John 5:19-20
"Like Father like Son"
"He can do only what he sees the Father doing (subordination) because he does whatever he Father does (coextensive action). This makes his sonship unique"
2) John 5:20- Why does the Son do everything the Father does?
The Father Loves the Son and shows him all he does "craftsman shop model"
"Jesus is so uniquely and unqualifedly the Son of God that he Father shows him all he does, out of sheer love for him, and the Son, however dependent on his Father, does everything the Father does"
3.A) " The Son by his obediance to the Father doing only what God gives him to say, yet doing such things in funiction of his ablitiy to do whatever the Father does, acts in such a way as to reveal God perfectly"
b) " It is because the Father loves the Son that this pattern of divin self-disclosure pertains"
John 5:23
Romans 8:32
4) The Son's love for the Father
John 8:29, 14:31
5)Father loves the Son and shows him all that he does
John 5:20a
John 5:20b-21
"In the past God occasionally used human agents i the resuctation of someone (e.g., Elijah). Jesus is different. Because the Father has 'shown' him this, Jesus raised the dead as he please, just as the Father pleases"
Some Concluding Synthetic Reflections
"Mark well the distinction between the love of the Father for the Son and the love of the Son for the Father. The Father commands, sends, tells, commissions- and demonstrates his love fo the Son by 'showing' him everything- and demonstrates his love for the Son by 'showing' him everything, such that the Son does whatever the Father does. The Son obeys, says only what the Father gives him to say, does only what the Father gives him to do, comes into the world as the Sent One- and demonstrates hi love for the Faher prcisely by such obedience"
John 15
The model of how Jesus loves the Father should be our model in how we should love and obey Jesus
John 14:15
John 15:14-15
John 17
Distinction between slaves and friends
"not once is Jesus or God ever described in the Bible as our friend. Abraham is God's friend; the reverse is never stated."
He has shown us what the Father does and says, revealed this to us, so therefore we are his friends
" The difference of friendship is that the full information has been conveyed. It is an informational difference...of revelation not of obediance"
For the Love of God- Pt. 1
Notes and personal commentary on "The Difficult Doctrine of the Love of God"(D.A.Carson)
Started 4/8/10- Completed 4/15/10
All "" are direct quotes. Notes are in summary/paraphrased form unless other wise noted. Chapter titles and underlines are directly quoted
Chp. 1
Why the Doctrine of the Love of God is judged difficult
1) The Majority of the people today believe God (it, she, he, fill in their own perfered word) is a loving God, and are not surprise by the "God loves you" phrase. But the definition of this love is vastly different than the Christian definition of love, or at least the definition that they come to has been set in a place outside of Christian theology
2) Other "complementary" truths about God are widely disbelieved such as sovereignty, holiness, God's wrath, providence etc...
"the love of God in our culture has been purged of anything the culture finds uncomfortable. The love of God has been sanitized, deomocratized and above all else sentimentalized"
"today most people seem to have little difficulty believing in the love of God; they have far more difficulty believing i the justice of God, the wrath of God, and the noncontridictory truthfulness of an ominicient God"
3) Our culture believes that all religions are the same, and a postmodern mindset has taken over. "the only hersey is that there is such a thing as heresy"
4) "Within Christian confessionalism the doctrine of the love of God poses its difficulties"
thinking through fundamental truths, to keep truths about God in balance
5) Love of God thought more easily understood than it is, overlooking distinctions
Some Different ways the bible speaks of the love of God
1) Love of the Father for the Son and Son for the Father
John 3:35, 5:20, 14:31
2) God's providental love over his creation
Gen. 1, Matt.6
3)God's "salvfic stance toward his fallen world"
John 3:16, 1 John 2:2, John 15:19
"inviting" "commanding all humans to repent"
Ezek. 33:11
4) God's particular effective selecting love toward his elect
Duet. 7:7-8; cf. 4:37, 10:14-15
" when Israel is contrasted witht he universe or other nations, the distinguishing feature has nothing of personal or national merit; it is nothing other than the love of God"
"the discriminationg feature of God's love surfaces frequently"
Mal. 1:2-3
Christ loves the Church
Eph. 5;25
5) "God's love is sometimes said to be directed toward his own people in a porvisional or conditional way- condtitoned, that is, on obedience"
Jude vs. 21
John 15:9-10
"to a thousand generations"
Ex. 20:6
Ps. 103:9-11, 13, 17-18
Three Preliminary observations on these distinctive ways of talking about the Love of God
1) The results of absoltizing and making exclusive one aspect of God's love over another, or making one the lense by which you see all the rest
Trinitarian model- between Jesus and followers; Father does not redeem Son nor vica versa
Providental love lense- God is a "mysterious force"- stance of pantheism
Inviting seeking love lense- semi-plageans, pelagians, arminians, + interested parties in God's emotional inner life
Election lense- God loves elect; hates reprobate; same assertion that has "engendered hyper calvinism"
Obediance love lense- bring people into merit theology instead of the cross
2) These views not "compartments" but complimentariasm -not "loves" but "love" God is love
All these truths are needed and needed to be held together
3) Do "certain evangelical cliches stand up"? aka "God's love is unconditional" "God loves everyone the same way"
What applies and what time is essential and important
"Christian faithfulness entails our responsibility to grow in our grasp ow what it means to confess that God is love"
Started 4/8/10- Completed 4/15/10
All "" are direct quotes. Notes are in summary/paraphrased form unless other wise noted. Chapter titles and underlines are directly quoted
Chp. 1
Why the Doctrine of the Love of God is judged difficult
1) The Majority of the people today believe God (it, she, he, fill in their own perfered word) is a loving God, and are not surprise by the "God loves you" phrase. But the definition of this love is vastly different than the Christian definition of love, or at least the definition that they come to has been set in a place outside of Christian theology
2) Other "complementary" truths about God are widely disbelieved such as sovereignty, holiness, God's wrath, providence etc...
"the love of God in our culture has been purged of anything the culture finds uncomfortable. The love of God has been sanitized, deomocratized and above all else sentimentalized"
"today most people seem to have little difficulty believing in the love of God; they have far more difficulty believing i the justice of God, the wrath of God, and the noncontridictory truthfulness of an ominicient God"
3) Our culture believes that all religions are the same, and a postmodern mindset has taken over. "the only hersey is that there is such a thing as heresy"
4) "Within Christian confessionalism the doctrine of the love of God poses its difficulties"
thinking through fundamental truths, to keep truths about God in balance
5) Love of God thought more easily understood than it is, overlooking distinctions
Some Different ways the bible speaks of the love of God
1) Love of the Father for the Son and Son for the Father
John 3:35, 5:20, 14:31
2) God's providental love over his creation
Gen. 1, Matt.6
3)God's "salvfic stance toward his fallen world"
John 3:16, 1 John 2:2, John 15:19
"inviting" "commanding all humans to repent"
Ezek. 33:11
4) God's particular effective selecting love toward his elect
Duet. 7:7-8; cf. 4:37, 10:14-15
" when Israel is contrasted witht he universe or other nations, the distinguishing feature has nothing of personal or national merit; it is nothing other than the love of God"
"the discriminationg feature of God's love surfaces frequently"
Mal. 1:2-3
Christ loves the Church
Eph. 5;25
5) "God's love is sometimes said to be directed toward his own people in a porvisional or conditional way- condtitoned, that is, on obedience"
Jude vs. 21
John 15:9-10
"to a thousand generations"
Ex. 20:6
Ps. 103:9-11, 13, 17-18
Three Preliminary observations on these distinctive ways of talking about the Love of God
1) The results of absoltizing and making exclusive one aspect of God's love over another, or making one the lense by which you see all the rest
Trinitarian model- between Jesus and followers; Father does not redeem Son nor vica versa
Providental love lense- God is a "mysterious force"- stance of pantheism
Inviting seeking love lense- semi-plageans, pelagians, arminians, + interested parties in God's emotional inner life
Election lense- God loves elect; hates reprobate; same assertion that has "engendered hyper calvinism"
Obediance love lense- bring people into merit theology instead of the cross
2) These views not "compartments" but complimentariasm -not "loves" but "love" God is love
All these truths are needed and needed to be held together
3) Do "certain evangelical cliches stand up"? aka "God's love is unconditional" "God loves everyone the same way"
What applies and what time is essential and important
"Christian faithfulness entails our responsibility to grow in our grasp ow what it means to confess that God is love"
Saturday, January 2, 2010
Memorization Pt 2
This is the message we have heard from him: that God is light and in him there is no darkness at all. If we say we have fellowship with him and yet walk in darkness we lie and do not practice the truth. But if we walk in the light as he is in the light we have fellowship with one another and the blood of Jesus Christ cleanses us from all sin. If we say we have not sinned we deceive ourselves and his truth is not in us. If we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar and his word is not in us.
1 John 1
1 John 1
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